Agency Bytes is a podcast for owners of creative, marketing, and advertising agencies that packs a ton of important agency information on one topic, from one expert into a 25-minute brief. Why 25 minutes? Because who has the attention span for much more these days, and you can squeeze in a listen between meetings with time for a bathroom break or coffee refill before your next meeting. Agency Bytes is brought to you by Steve Guberman from Agency Outsight. Steve is a 20-year agency veteran who works as a business coach for agencies around the country. He coaches owners of branding, marketing, design, and PR agencies to conquer their goals and overcome their challenges. Learn more about Agency Outsight at www.agencyoutsight.com
Episodes
Friday May 31, 2024
Ep 061 – Brooke Sellas, B Squared Media – Connecting Conversations
Friday May 31, 2024
Friday May 31, 2024
Featuring: Brooke Sellas, B Squared Media
In this episode, I got to interview Brooke Sellas, CEO of B Squared Media, a boutique digital marketing agency. We discuss Brooke's journey of starting her agency, the importance of social care, and bridging the gap between marketing and sales. Brooke shares valuable insights and advice for agency owners from her book, “Conversations that Connect.” and insights on how they leverage social care for their clients. We also briefly touched on navigating the intricacies of working side-by-side with a spouse.
Key Takeaways
• Starting an agency requires taking risks and seizing opportunities.
• Social care is about acquiring and retaining customers through social media.
• Social engagement is crucial for building brand loyalty and trust.
• Bridging the gap between marketing and sales is essential for business success.Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
03:00 Starting B Squared Media
06:00 Working with Spouse and Team Dynamics
09:00 Brooke's Role as CEO and Visionary
12:00 Defining Social Care
16:00 The Importance of Social Engagement
20:00 Bridging the Gap Between Marketing and Sales
28:00 New Hobbies, Tools, and Business AdviceBrooke Sellas is shaping the future of digital marketing, one conversation at a time. As a CEO, she's the visionary behind B Squared Media, a boutique digital marketing agency that's redefining 'social care' for industry giants like Brother International, Endless Pools, and BCU. With her groundbreaking 2022 book, "Conversations That Connect," she's charting a course for authentic digital interactions. Dive into her insights on the Marketing Agency Show podcast, or from one of two courses she teaches at the University of California, Irvine.
Contact Brooke and download B Squared Media’s 2023 Social Care Report here.
Thursday May 23, 2024
Ep 060 – Rahul Raj, 5&Vine – Living Your Niche
Thursday May 23, 2024
Thursday May 23, 2024
Featuring: Rahul Raj, 5&Vine – Living Your Niche
In this episode, I got to talk with Rahul Raj, founder of 5&Vine. They help challenger brands win. It’s in their DNA and their whole reason for showing up each day. Our conversation dug into the nuances of living in your niche, how to define the edge of that niche, and how they evaluate wavering outside of the laser focus of who they work with. Rahul spoke about the inherent risks of being too deeply niched what tier diversification means to them, and how they define it. We went on a side tangent about the lack of authenticity in personal communication, specifically on social media.
Takeaways
• Building a purpose-driven agency focused on helping challenger brands make a positive impact in the world
• The importance of authenticity, community, and engagement in brand building
• Challenges of staying true to a niche and the risks and opportunities presented by AI
• The responsibility of leveraging privilege to help othersChapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
01:10 The Journey of Five and Vine
05:23 Building Brands that Better the World
06:18 Staying True to a Niche
09:27 The Importance of Authenticity and Learning from Mistakes
11:18 Diversification and Engaging the Team
14:51 The Role of AI in Branding
22:41 Navigating Risks and Opportunities
26:09 Final Thoughts and Rapid Fire Questions
I help Challenger Brands win.
I started 5&Vine to help build, launch and grow meaningful brands that disrupt categories and better society. To date, our impact has helped our partners close over $1.6B in follow on financing, and two have gone public.
My expertise in Challenger Brands was born from my time as CMO at ecobee, where I helped transform the brand from relative obscurity into the #2 thermostat brand in North America with a 30% share and developed a playbook on how Challengers could take down industry incumbents.
I know what a brand needs to take on Goliath. Prior to ecobee, I ran an incubator for Walmart in San Francisco. After seeing an opportunity to extract more value out of products that already existed, I built a refurbishing infrastructure that turned costly customer returns into a multi-billion dollar revenue stream. For these efforts, I was honored with Walmart's Innovation Champion Award, a fellowship with the Aspen Institute, and by GOOD magazine as 1 of 100 people pushing the world forward.
My commitment to bettering the world started when I was young. At the age of 17, I founded and developed Meal Exchange to build healthy, just and environmentally sustainable food systems across Canada. Our work has been recognized by TIME magazine as "revolutionary”.
Today, alongside my work at 5&Vine, I'm actively engaged in inspiring and empowering others to make their own positive impact. As well as being on the Design Team of the Aspen First Movers fellowship, I mentor entrepreneurs at First Round Capital, Tech Stars, the American Marketing Association, the University of Toronto’s Venture Mentoring Program, the Presidio Graduate School, and delivered a TEDx talk on the power of Challenger Thinking.
Contact Rahul at www.5andvine.com
Friday May 17, 2024
Ep 059 – Aalap Shah, 1o8 Agency – The Spirit of an Agency
Friday May 17, 2024
Friday May 17, 2024
Featuring: Aalap Shah, 1o8 Agency
In this episode, I sat down with Aalap Shah from 1o8, a minority-owned digital agency. Aalap shares his journey to agency ownership, starting with his background in accounting and e-commerce. He discusses how he fell in love with marketing and eventually started his own social media agency. Aalap also talks about the recent acquisition of Heart Creative, which adds content production capabilities to 1o8. He emphasizes the importance of the pillars of values that his organization stands for, how culture and community are imperative in his agency, and the value of certifications like being a minority-owned business. Aalap also shares his passion for giving back and his love for running and nature.
Key Takeaways
• Agency ownership can happen by accident, as it did for Aalap Shah, who started his agency after realizing he wanted to work for himself
• Acquiring another business can help fill gaps in services and provide new opportunities for growth
• Building a strong culture and community within an agency is essential for success
• Certifications, such as being a minority-owned business, can open doors and lead to new business opportunities
• Giving back to the community and being involved in philanthropic efforts can be a valuable part of an agency's mission
• Finding a hobby or activity, like running, can provide personal fulfillment and balance in the midst of running a businessChapters
00:00 Accidental Agency Ownership
05:35 The Meaning Behind 1o8
09:35 Building Pillars of Expertise
13:36 Driving Consumer-Based Traffic
22:33 The Power of Looker Studio for GA4
26:27 The Value of Niching Down
Aalap Shah is a Chicago-born entrepreneur, public speaker, philanthropist, and the founder of 1o8, a fresh digital marketing start-up focused on deepening brand awareness and increasing sales for amazon + e-commerce companies nationwide. Aalap and his team at 1o8 have worked with companies like Gildan, Sweet Leaf Tea, Vetnique Labs, OHi Superfood Bars and Tio Gazpacho—just to name a few.
Aalap happily shares his personal entrepreneurial story and his passion for crafting digital strategy, creating content, navigating the ever-evolving digital marketplace, and captaining the entrepreneurs’ life at events far and wide. As a registered CPA and the child of Indian immigrant-entrepreneurs, business is a key part of Aalap’s DNA and integral to his own personal American Dream. Aalap started his first business, a toy store, at the age of 23. Maneuvering the marketplace while building his business’ brand awareness sparked a love of marketing and promotion. Aalap worked in digital marketing for years thereafter, and is now the strategic brain behind 1o8, an amazon and ecomm focused growth agency in Chicago.
He has served as a keynote speaker, workshop moderator, and panelist at engagements with the National Business Education Association, Clickz, Social Media Week, Media Post, and Bloggers Week Summit and for companies such as Sears, Northwestern University, and DePaul University.
Contact Aalap on his website for 1o8 Agency, Heart Creative, or on LinkedIn.
Friday May 10, 2024
Ep 058 – Mary Ann Pruitt, Mosaic Agency – Media for the Ages
Friday May 10, 2024
Friday May 10, 2024
Featuring: Mary Ann Pruitt, Mosaic Agency
In this episode I got to sit with Mary Ann Pruitt, CEO and president of Mosaic Media, and discuss the need for specialized media buying expertise in the agency space. She explains how Mosaic Media helps agencies by providing media buying services without the high overhead costs. Mary Ann emphasizes the importance of collaboration and partnership between agencies and specialized service providers. She also discusses the evolution of media consumption and the impact of COVID-19 on media habits. Mary Ann recommends the book 'Miracle Morning' and advises listeners to trust their gut instincts in business.
Key Takeaways
• Specialized media buying expertise is crucial in the agency space to optimize return on investment.
• Collaboration and partnership between agencies and specialized service providers can lead to stronger client outcomes.
• The COVID-19 pandemic accelerated changes in media consumption habits, with older generations embracing online platforms and younger generations rediscovering traditional media.
• The book 'Miracle Morning' offers valuable insights on establishing morning routines for personal and professional growth.
• Trusting your gut instincts is important in business decision-making.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
07:01 The High Overhead Costs of Media
13:04 The Impact of Data and Micro-Targeting
27:24 Hobbies, Tools, and Business Advice
Mary Ann Pruitt is the CEO and President at Mosaic Media, a collection of media-buying experts and creative strategists who negotiate, purchase, and monitor advertising space and airtime. Mary Ann started her career in media by working as a senior sales executive for some of the nation’s largest media outlets. After discovering her talent and love for all things media strategy, she founded Mosaic as a way to provide niche expert experience to agencies and marketing departments across the country.
Her hard work and savvy strategy skills have led Mosaic to year-over-year growth, and have expanded her impact as an industry leader in all things traditional, digital, and everything in between. Reflecting this is a 2020 award from Cynopsis Media naming her as a Top Woman in Media.
Mary Ann has helped develop effective marketing strategies for agencies of all sizes, small businesses, service businesses, private educational institutions, and legal and professional services businesses along
with many others. She is passionate about passing on the experience that she has gained to eager professionals looking for actionable marketing tips.
Contact Mary Ann on her website.
Monday May 06, 2024
Monday May 06, 2024
Featuring: Emily Cohen & Hunter Vargas, Casa Davka
In Episode 57, I had the privilege of sitting down with the dynamic duo behind Casa Davka – Emily Cohen and Hunter Vargas. This episode is jam-packed with valuable insights for agency owners looking to master their positioning, niching, and client relationships. We dive deep into strategic approaches for expanding expertise and fostering stronger client connections. From navigating business development to addressing harmful industry practices, we cover it all. We also explore the evolving landscape of remote work and its impact on team effectiveness, while emphasizing the importance of fair compensation and trust-building in remote agencies. Plus, we discuss the advantages of global talent, vertical niching strategies, achieving work-life balance, and fostering a culture of trust. As always, expect a no-nonsense conversation that cuts through the noise. Don't miss out on this episode!
Key Takeaways
• Clients are taking longer to close deals, so patience is key.
• Strategy is becoming increasingly important in the design industry.
• Ethical business practices, such as fair contracts and pricing, are crucial.
Work-life balance and setting boundaries are essential for personal and professional well-being.
• Capturing metrics is important to measure success and prove the value of design.
• Take action and don't wait for perfection.Chapters
Emily Cohen, Founder & Partner at Casa Davka, is a no-nonsense business consultant who has partnered with 500+ leading creative firms worldwide. At Casa Davka, Emily offers customized business solutions to creative businesses so they are able to: envision and plan for their future, position themselves to stay competitive, attract and qualify new business prospects and talent, refine, evolve, and elevate their organizational structure and reimagine existing processes to increase efficiency and effectiveness.
Emily is a frequently requested main stage speaker within the creative industry and has spoken at hundreds of international, national, and local conferences and events for organizations such as Creative Mornings, AIGA, Association of Registered Graphic Designers (RGD), and Creative South.
In 2018, she self-published her business book for creatives, Brutally Honest: No-bullshit business strategies to evolve your creative business. Brutally Honest has become a go-to business book for creative industry professionals worldwide and several universities use it as a teaching tool.
Emily is a designer by degree, an avid reader, a dog-lover, a trend-spotter, a connection-builder, and an industry advocate.
After working with multiple creative firms, Hunter officially joined Emily’s practice in Summer 2022 to grow our practice, elevate our offerings, and provide a fresh perspective to our clients. Her experience as a marketer, project manager, client partner, and business development manager paired with her on-the-ground insight and unique, younger perspective is a huge asset to our consulting practice. Hunter truly knows our industry inside and out.
She also happens to be Emily’s daughter and can read her mind so they work together seamlessly, complementing each other in many ways.
Contact Casa Davka on their website, or Emily or Hunter’s LinkedIn pages.
Wednesday Apr 24, 2024
Ep 056 – Wayne Pelletier, Resonant Pixel Company – Selling Productization
Wednesday Apr 24, 2024
Wednesday Apr 24, 2024
Featuring: Wayne Pelletier, Resonant Pixel Company
In this episode, Wayne Pelletier, founder of Resonant Pixel Co, discusses the process of productizing agency services and the benefits it brings. He shares his journey from being a marketing assistant to launching his own agency and explains why he chose to focus on Squarespace as the platform for his services. Wayne emphasizes the importance of niching down and serving a specific audience, as well as the mindset shift required to transition from a project-based model to a subscription-based model. He also highlights the challenges and rewards of productization and the potential for scalability and growth.
Key Takeaways
• Productizing agency services involves niching down and focusing on a specific audience or platform.
• A subscription-based model can provide more predictable revenue and eliminate the feast and famine cycle of project-based work.
• Choosing the right platform, such as Squarespace, can offer stability, scalability, and the ability to hire predictably for talent.
• Productization requires a mindset shift from being a designer to being a business owner, focusing on access to expertise and lifetime value.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Pronunciation
08:10 Transitioning to a Subscription-Based Model
12:54 The Benefits of Productization and Lifetime Value
23:04 Serving Small Businesses and Providing Relief
Wayne came up working at world-renowned digital agencies as a designer, art director, and creative director. He has helped some of the world's best brands with award-winning strategic design and customer experiences. After 24 years of agency life, he founded Resonant Pixel Company in 2020 and is helping small businesses go beyond brochure-ware websites. And he's doing it with a productized subscription business model.
Wednesday Apr 17, 2024
Ep 055 – Jacob Cass, JUST Creative – How to Stand Out Like a Flamingo
Wednesday Apr 17, 2024
Wednesday Apr 17, 2024
Featuring: Jacob Cass, Founder of JUST Creative
In this episode, I had the pleasure of chatting with Jacob Cass from JUST Creative about his remarkable journey from digital nomad and designer to his current roles as an agency owner, educator, and blogger. We delve into how Jacob manages to juggle multiple ventures while maintaining focus and standing out in the industry. His pursuit of creative freedom drives him to embrace new technologies and innovative ideas, such as the AI bots he's developed to support branding efforts for agencies. We also explore topics like affiliate marketing, value-based pricing, marketplace positioning, and more. Tune in for the full conversation and gain insights from Jacob's wealth of experience!
Key Takeaways
• Embrace AI in design and see how it can improve your process and productivity.
• Diversify your revenue streams to create a more stable and sustainable business.
• Consider value-based pricing to reflect the value you bring to clients rather than charging by the hour.
• Reflect, recalibrate, and refocus regularly to adapt to changes in the market and set new goals.
• Try new tools and don't be afraid to experiment and find what works best for you.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
08:24 The Role of Design in Jacob's Business
23:55 Experimenting with Tools and Embracing Change
Jacob Cass is a brand designer, strategist, educator, podcaster, business coach, community builder, and the founder of JUST Creative, a branding & design consultancy that doubles as an industry-leading blog and community.
Jacob helps grow brands strategically and has worked for clients such as Disney, Nintendo, and Jerry Seinfeld however he is now focused on bringing this global brand experience to smaller businesses.
For Jacob, design is a lifelong journey of continuously honing his craft, as well as empowering other fellow designers & entrepreneurs to build on theirs, which has allowed him to build a large and loyal following, including his JUST Creative website which has been viewed over 70 million times.
Jacob has spoken at TEDx and been featured in Entrepreneur, Forbes, and a number of high-profile design books including The Best of Logo Lounge Master Series.
Jacob holds a Bachelor of Visual Communication (Graphic Design Major) from The University of Newcastle, Sydney, Australia, and a Brand Master Certification from Brand Master Academy, and over 17 years of experience in the industry with multiple awards on his belt.
Jacob co-hosts the JUST Branding Podcast which helps designers & entrepreneurs grow brands.
He also coaches creatives in his Inner Triangle Coaching Program, either 1:1 or in a group mastermind setting. Yahoo! recently declared him as the “Best Brand Coach”.
Jacob also runs the membership community Exponential Creatives which helps creatives grow exponentially.
Jacob is a digital nomad and travels the world now isolated in Sydney with his family of four while running JUST Creative.
He has visited 88 countries thus far with travel guides most of them available at his travel blog, JUST Globetrotting.
Contact Justin on his website, listen to his podcast, download his Branding Briefcase Freebie, and subscribe to his newsletter.
Thursday Apr 04, 2024
Ep 054 – Mark Riggs – Secrets to Organic Account Growth
Thursday Apr 04, 2024
Thursday Apr 04, 2024
Featuring: Mark Riggs, CEO of Pemberton
In this episode, I got to sit with Mark Riggs from Pemberton, a consultant and coach for agencies. He shares his insights on shifting from the RFP rat race to building organic growth of existing and new clients. He emphasizes the importance of solving client problems and being proactive in account growth. Mark discusses the need to set expectations with clients from the beginning and continuously communicate and collaborate with them. He also highlights the value of focusing on organic growth and investing the same energy and innovation into existing clients as in winning new business. Mark advises agency owners to start out with defined principles and have patience in their journey. Tune in to hear his top secrets on nailing organic account growth.
Key Takeaways
• Focus on solving client problems and being proactive in account growth.
• Set expectations with clients from the beginning and continuously communicate and collaborate with them.
• Invest the same energy and innovation into existing clients as in winning new business.
• Start out with defined principles and have patience in your agency journey.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
01:04 Shift in Biz Dev and Account Growth
09:36 Setting Expectations and Scoping
14:21 Operational Scoping and Profitability
23:08 Lessons from Marketing During Downturns
25:49 Invaluable Business Advice
Mark is the founder and CEO of Pemberton which is a management consultancy that exists to be the go-to resource for marketing/communications agencies to discover and reveal pathways to organic growth while changing the mindset of an RFP-obsessed industry.
Before starting Pemberton, Mark spent 20-plus years in the agency world working for IPG’s Mullen Lowe, an Ad Age A-List Agency, Taylor, the Holmes Report’s Consumer Agency of the Decade, MWWPR and French/West/Vaughan, the Southeast’s largest independent agency.
Mark has spent a career learning the art of integrated communication developing and executing award-winning consumer programs for brands and companies like Allstate, Honda, Ford, Kimberly-Clark, Polaris, Coke, Diageo, RJ Reynolds, SunTrust Banks, the U.S. Navy, the Atlantic Coast Conference and ESPN, to name a few.
Mark has a reputation as a business-builder and a strategic counselor and has experience in leading client services, insights and planning functions, as well as developing talent. A creative thinker and problem-solver, Mark believes that great thinking can “come from anywhere,” it’s the ability to harness it and leverage it for clients that makes the intellectual property of the agency valuable and an integral part of the marketing mix.
Contact Mark on his website, his personal LinkedIn, or his company LinkedIn.